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Tuesday, February 28, 2006

The facts of the Holocaust

I was inspired to write this due to Chancelucky's comment here.

There's a very interesting theory going around, that 6 million Jews died during World War II at the hands of the Nazis. It's a theory that most people believe in, and which is promoted to great effect by the Jews themselves, particularly the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). If anyone doesn't believe the theory, or they find evidence to discredit it, they are labelled a 'Holocaust denier' and either shunned, or imprisoned. Unfortunately, there are a lot of inconsistencies to the story, particularly officially, that brings into question the original theory of what the Holocaust is all about. If you search around, you can find the evidence for yourself, but I'll try to do a bit of it for you instead.

On April 18 1945, The New York Times reported that 4 million people died at Auschwitz. This single peice of newspaper reporting was used as evidence of the Holocaust for over 50 years. However, on January 26 1995, commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Auschwitz liberation, both the Washington Post and the New York Times reported that Polish authorities had determined that 1.5 million people at most, of all races and religions, died at Auschwitz of all causes, including natural causes. Official mention is here, where they state that the reason for the inflated figure was to 'demonize Fascism and enhance legitimacy of the Communist regime'.

What that means is that they lied.

Interestingly, reducing the Auschwitz death toll apparently does not change the numbers of Jews killed in the Holocaust. Personally, I'd like to know where the extra 3.5 MILLION came from, if they weren't from Auschwitz. There's no explanation of that.

If we take the original figure of 6 million, of which 4 million were said to have died at Auschwitz, and modify it with the new official figures of only 1.5 million PEOPLE who died at Auschwitz, we have the amazing figure of only 2 million JEWS dying due to the Holocaust.

Is it still a Holocaust at this point?

The death toll of the entire Second World War was 50 MILLION people. This site here has some great figures of the casualties.

Soldiers: 22.0M
- In camps, from Fascist terror: 12.0M
- From hostilites, blockade, epidemics, hunger: 14.5M
- From bombing: 1.5M

The country-by-country death toll (for figures over a million) is:

USSR: 20.0M
China: 10.45M
Poland: 5.8M
Germany: 5.5M
India: 2.15M
Japan: 1.9M
Yugoslavia: 1.55M

Who really had a Holocaust? The Jews, or any of the other countries above?

My dictionary defines a holocaust as: An act of great destruction and loss of life.

What gives the Jews the rights to claim ownership of 'holocaust', when it applies to so many other countries, and so many other victims? And especially when the figure of how many Jews died has changed over the years, becoming less and less as time has gone by.

The Jews, however, particularly the Israelis and the ADL, still bandy around the figure of 6 million dead, disregarding how the official figure has dropped to only 2 million. 'Holocaust denial' has become something that is worthy of imprisonment, and it seems that imprisonments are happening more today than in the past 6 years.

Could it be that it serves the purposes of the Jews to be pitied for the Holocaust as they want us to believe it? Could the benefits of being victims be so great to them, that the possibility of being considered liars and opportunists be worth keeping silent those who talk about the truth?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If there were no inconsistencies with the figures, we wouldn't be talking about it. If you preach about untruths, then you're considered an idiot. But if you're locked away for speaking those 'untruths', then the authorities show they have something to hide, especially when evidence proving the official story to be a lie is destroyed.

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Blogger Chancelucky said...

first, the numbers per se weren't Irving's problem. He had denied that there ever were gas chambers in the camps, of which Auschwitz was hardly the only one.
second, I agree to a certain extent in that Hitler killed large numbers of Slavs, gypsies, and homosexuals as well.
I've never done or looked all that carefully at audits of the various death camps, but it has to be understood that the Jews were killed in a variety of ways often without benefit of the "record keeping" in the better known camps. There are any number of stories about mass slaughters and mass graves in and out of the ghettoes.
If I understand it 6 million is a pretty fair estimate. I don't know how many were gassed at camps per se and I don't know that Irving's claim that most died from typhus and cholera in the camps really changes how horrific it was.

I don't know how many Armenians come your way or Sudanese, but yeah there've been a few holocausts in the last century.
I sometimes think about Troy and Carthage. What happened to the language, culture, and people? Ancient battle wasn't all that effective. There would have been hundreds of thousands of survivors of both cultures. What became of them?

2/28/2006 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you been to a Holocaust sight in Germany or Poland? I think not so be careful what you type. Have you met a Holocaust survivor? I think not so be careful what you send back into the world in the the form of your opinion:-(

2/28/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Alan Howard said...

hi anonymous, thanks for posting. I've been waiting for someone like you for a long time. :-) Welcome to this site.

2/28/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger Chancelucky said...

I don't know if the commenter was asking Alan or me.
I've been to Dachau and I've known a handful of holocaust survivors personally, a couple of them very well. One was an Auschwitz survivor. I've known several more people who lost very close relatives in the camps. All of them were quite credible.
There are also a number of German and Polish sources including former guards etc. who can confirm that yes, people were being executed "on purpose" in the camps.
Exact numbers of any kind during a war are almost impossible to come up with but the range of how many Jews died in Europe during the period is well-established.
Note the very wide variation in the number of Iraqi civilians killed in the current war or by Saddam, depending on source. Just because there's a variation doesn't mean that civilians weren't killed in Iraq.

You might also want to look at the Turkish claims that Armenians simply died as refugees. Those too are based on these strange sorts of numbers arguments in the face of anecdotes, documents, and survivor and perpertrator testimony.

2/28/2006 01:51:00 PM  

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